How do you know you have the correct stock in hand to cut?

Brantel · Post by **Brantel** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 11:58 am

Working with the wings and emp was a no brainer when it came to deciding what parts were what and the raw stock that was sent to make certain parts was easy to figure out but....

How the heck with the fuse do you know, if you are about to hack up a piece of stock, that it was not meant for something else?

The first things you do on the firewall had me trying to figure this out. The brake line doubler, fuel pump doubler, the little 3x5/8x.063 strips etc. They tell you to make it from .063 sheet and there was only one piece that looked like you could make all this stuff from it so that is what I used. The problem may be that it was meant for something else.

Next was the stiffner that goes below the firewall recess. Looks like this was to be cut from one of the 2ea 6' long pieces of angle but hopefully somewhere else, I do not need a couple 6' long pieces.

I wish vans would list the parts that are to be made from a piece of stock beside the stock description on the shipping list. They do this on some items but not all.

I just hate having to order new stock and pay huge shipping charges on it if I use the wrong stuff.

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:26 pm

Well, it sounds like you are on the right track as far as what pieces to cut up. There are no 6' long pieces of angle that'll be needed, but there are several pieces that need to be made for the forward section of the cockpit side walls (a couple are already made with bends in them from the factory). The other areas where angle will be used is the seatbacks.

I agree though, I had to convince myself SEVERAL times that I was cutting the right piece (even though I didn't know for sure).

There is plenty of material to work with, at least to the point I'm at...I actually have quite a bit left over, but still have a couple things to do with it.

smithhb · Post by **smithhb** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 12:45 pm

Yeah, I totally agree with you Brantel...

I just ordered more shim stock from Vans for the spacers that lie under the rear deck. I either hid them too well in my shop or my dog drug them off and buried them. Anyhow, they are cheap to re-order and I had them shipped Priority Mail (had them in 3 days!) Handling charge was $2.50.

Post by **Spike** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 1:50 pm

Brantel wrote: I wish vans would list the parts that are to be made from a piece of stock beside the stock description on the shipping list. They do this on some items but not all.

Yes they do. I believe that it is section 2 of the manual? The parts list in the beginning of the preview plans has a listing of *all* parts and what drawings they are referred to on. For parts that are made from stock, it calls out which piece of stock to use.

As the commercial says, "Its in there."

Spike

Brantel · Post by **Brantel** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:04 pm

Spike wrote:
Brantel wrote: I wish vans would list the parts that are to be made from a piece of stock beside the stock description on the shipping list. They do this on some items but not all.
Yes they do. I believe that it is section 2 of the manual? The parts list in the beginning of the preview plans has a listing of *all* parts and what drawings they are referred to on. For parts that are made from stock, it calls out which piece of stock to use.

As the commercial says, "Its in there."

Spike

My manual was one of the first when the 7 was first released and I have never seen this list. I think you are refering to the same type or the same list that our friend Brad pointed out to me that is over on the yahoo groups files area. This is a great list and is even better in Excel because you can sort it.

Post by **Spike** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 2:31 pm

I would imagine that Vans would send you one if you asked. Its invaluable.

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 5:05 pm

Hey! I've never seen that list either. Is it in the doc section here? I'm going to have to look it up.

RV7Factory · Post by **RV7Factory** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:06 pm

I have a copy of the file locally, if anyone wants it and doesn't want to register for Yahoo groups access, just shoot me a PM.

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:15 pm

I downloaded a copy. It is not in my manual though. Must be a 9 vs 7 thing. While it looks like it would come in handy it still doesn't appear to tell you which stock to use specifically. Doesn't it just tell you the same thing the plans do? What am I missing?

I can see where the plan page number would be handy though.

RV7Factory · Post by **RV7Factory** » Tue Aug 07, 2007 6:30 pm

Huh? Are you saying you do not have a Section 4 (Parts List) in your manual???

I guess it is useful to A) identify what a piece is made of (i.e. thickness of material), and B) to assist you in locating what else is made of a particular piece of stock. Let's say you make a mistake fabricating something from a piece of angle, and you want to remake the part. You can search the list to see if anything else will be made from the same angle stock. At least that is what I hear, I've never needed it for anything like that.

Brantel · Post by **Brantel** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 7:25 am

RV7Factory wrote:Huh? Are you saying you do not have a Section 4 (Parts List) in your manual???

I guess it is useful to A) identify what a piece is made of (i.e. thickness of material), and B) to assist you in locating what else is made of a particular piece of stock. In other works, lets say you make a mistake fabricating something from a piece of angle, and you want to remake the part. You can search the list to see if anything else will be made from the same angle stock. At least that is what I hear, I've never needed it for anything like that.

My manual had a parts list but it was similar to the way they did the RV6 manual. I think this nice list came out later. I love the one that you pointed me to Brad. That is so nice in Excel to be able to sort and see instantly what stock is used where.

JohnR · Post by **JohnR** » Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:17 pm

RV7Factory wrote:Huh? Are you saying you do not have a Section 4 (Parts List) in your manual???

I guess it is useful to A) identify what a piece is made of (i.e. thickness of material), and B) to assist you in locating what else is made of a particular piece of stock. Let's say you make a mistake fabricating something from a piece of angle, and you want to remake the part. You can search the list to see if anything else will be made from the same angle stock. At least that is what I hear, I've never needed it for anything like that.

Okay, I did have a parts list but for some reason it was clear in the back of the book after the small versions of the plans. I had never even looked at it or seen it.

Probably would have been handy a few times. The Excel one is now on the computer inthe shop and will be my "go to" list.

smithhb · Post by **smithhb** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:42 am

How can I get a copy of the Excel List?

Brantel · Post by **Brantel** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:20 am

smithhb wrote:How can I get a copy of the Excel List?

Just sent it to you via email, just realize it is for the 7 but I think the 7 and 9 share a common fuse correct?

Does anyone know of a similar list for the 8, 9 or 10?

smithhb · Post by **smithhb** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:34 am

Thanks Brantel,

I'll compare the Excel list to my hardcopy Section 4.

RV7Factory · Post by **RV7Factory** » Thu Aug 09, 2007 4:13 pm

I don't think he posts here (yet), but check out what Mike Nipp has done!

http://www.nippaero.com/partslist/_partslist_list.php

Sweet!

captain_john · Post by **captain_john** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:30 am

WHOA!

Good find, Brad!

How does George do it?

When will he add pics to the view detail?

CJ

RivetBangers.com

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