YAEG - Yet Another Expensive Garmin

svanarts · Post by **svanarts** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:47 pm

Oh look, another expensive Garmin GPS is just in time for Christmas...

http://www.avshop.com/product/5430/130?r=newgarmin

Post by **Spike** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 12:53 pm

Yeah, thats kind of what I was thinking. It looks like a really sweet unit, but darn, its north of $3K. Add a few more thousand to it and you can get a panel mount PFD from Advanced to include an engine monitor. The one thing that I see that Garmin has right now is a better graphics presentation, at least to my eye. It is not going to take long however for the others to catch up.

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 1:57 pm

Spike wrote:<snip>Add a few more thousand to it and you can get a panel mount PFD from Advanced to include an engine monitor.<snip>

...or $1500 more for an MGL Enigma with all that AND a built in WAAS GPS...

Post by **Spike** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:20 pm

How are the mechanics of flying approaches with the MGL? How well do they have the procedures down?

dons · Post by **dons** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:22 pm

Me thinks Chad is happy with his Enigma

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:23 pm

Probably should split this in to another thread...I haven't flown behind one yet, but from what those that have, they say it's a great EFIS with usability out the wazzoo, and it's rock solid. The sim shows it as a very user friendly box, and if fly's approaches very well.

rv8or · Post by **rv8or** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:40 pm

C'mon, half full!

Just think what the 396 or 496 will be going for in 6 months...

Joe

svanarts · Post by **svanarts** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:12 pm

Very true.

Looking at the unit it seems like Garmin is trying to go after the AvMap crowd. But the AvMap is less than half the price.

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AvMap

airguy · Post by **airguy** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:44 pm

And for that matter, I prefer the digital readouts versus the simulated gauges. Gauges, even simulated ones, tear up a lot of panel (or display) space versus a simple digital readout.

weezbad · Post by **weezbad** » Thu Oct 30, 2008 7:08 pm

well your quite right, but you can page between them if you like or change the data fields....

why doesnt this have waas ..my 196 does???

rob · Post by **rob** » Fri Oct 31, 2008 11:25 pm

I don't think one could "technically" fly a legal GPS approach with the Enigma (it isn't a TSO'd unit, is it?). Just messing with approaches on my 420W shows that a true, documented GPS approach is much, much more than a runway intercept with glideslope, which is what the GLS function of the device seems to provide. Even the MGL manual says to not fly it in zero visibility or without some other means of navigation. I am certainly NOT knocking it -- it looks like a GREAT instrument! Just don't be fooled by it having a WAAS receiver -- my wife's Garmin running GPS watch has a WAAS receiver on it, but I wouldn't fly an approach with it

Bear in mind, I am not an instrument pilot, and I have been known to be completely full of crap at times:) Just be extremely conscious of the use of any flight instrument for purposes outside of the stated manufacturers intent...my $0.02, but it is probably worth less than that

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:24 pm

You're absolutely correct Rob. I would NEVER use the Enigma as a sole means of navigation on an approach. It is a fantastic supplement tho...

I have no aspirations to fly my RV IFR anyway, but it's neat that it has the capability, tho not legal to use it for an actual WAAS approach.

rob · Post by **rob** » Sat Nov 01, 2008 3:55 pm

cjensen wrote:You're absolutely correct Rob. I would NEVER use the Enigma as a sole means of navigation on an approach. It is a fantastic supplement tho... I have no aspirations to fly my RV IFR anyway, but it's neat that it has the capability, tho not legal to use it for an actual WAAS approach.

I gotcha, bud! I just didn't want you to end up being a smokin' hole somewhere!

Like I said in my original, that thing is VERY impressive. I had really never looked at the capabilities until a couple of weeks ago (it would be SWEET, yet way overkill, in a Cub project), and it does it all!!! Can't wait to see it in action!

cjensen · Post by **cjensen** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 5:06 pm

rob wrote:I gotcha, bud! I just didn't want you to end up being a smokin' hole somewhere!

Me either!!

TomC · Post by **TomC** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:46 pm

For us VFR pilots, what is the advantage of the 696? I understand that is has lots of IFR chart stuff. Does it have sectional maps? Without the sectionals, why would a VFR pilot want to pay over $3k for one?

Thanks,

svanarts · Post by **svanarts** » Sun Nov 02, 2008 11:09 pm

It seems that this device is targeting the Bonanza and twin crowd. A GPS with sectionals on it. Now that I'd LOVE to see. I know there is already ways to do that but a nice stable device with downloadable sectionals (and TACs) would be cool.

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YAEG - Yet Another Expensive Garmin

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